January 2012
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When M Decides To Set Things Straight
A: I don't like you SM, because our fandom is a mess and you let our boys break apart. Should have treated them better.
Me: Does this fandom look like a robotic slave of SM that everything we do is SM's fault? We're not that stupid we let SM run our lives right? So stop acting like they have the power over our actions. If this fandom's in a mess, it's OUR fault, stop pointing fingers. Then again, if blaming SM makes you sleep easier at night, who am I to stop your delusional rampage... But I disagree with you, that's my opinion.
A: No, our fandom is a mess because TVXQ is not together and that's SM's fault. Where did you come up with that scenario? I'm not trying to argue, so why are you being so nasty? And you call me rude.
Me: LOL... TVXQ losing 3 members is SM's fault? So SM controls the five members so completely whatever they do is SM's responsibility? Fact, ChunJaeSu decided to leave, HoMin decided to stay, I trust that they are adults who can make their own decision, and mature enough to be responsible for said decision. Even if ChunJaeSu left, this fandom doesn't have to be in a mess, fans have the options to support them and move on. Or is that SM's fault too that they can't? Please... Call me nasty, doesn't make me wrong. Stop blaming SM when we are all have the power and the ability to make our own decisions. If you blame SM for what's going on in this fandom, it means you give them power over this fandom. I believe the power is with the fans, not with SM. If we want this fandom a better one, WE have to work for it, not hoping for SM to get their act together and fix it for us. I'm not that childish, I am responsible for my own actions, not SM.
A: If SM would have treated them better, instead of giving them that slave contract and slave schedule, then maybe they would have stayed. You think the whole fandom can even come to an agreement. Look at you and me for example. You can't even respect my opinion and want to come up with a whole conclusion as to why you're right and I'm wrong. We all have different opinions and many don't know how to respect them. In order to move on, people need answers. We were just left hanging.
Me: Looks like we aren't the only ones disagreeing with each other because even though they have identical contracts and identical schedules, Yunho and Changmin is still staying with SM while the three chose to leave, HoMin never even complain or call it 'slave contract or slave schedule'. I have my answers, all 5 had stated their minds, and I have been listening. I am moving on, so it frustrates me to see people hung up in the past even when TVXQ is moving toward the future.
A: I honestly don't know why Homin decided to stay. Too keep the name alive? Not lose what they worked for years? Maybe they actually enjoyed? I don't know. But I can understand why JYJ left. But if SM would have negotiated better than things might have worked out. But he wanted to keep things the same and expect them to come back? I wouldn't work so hard only to be paid 4% of the cut and watch 80% go to my boss. It's unfair. I don't have my answers like you. That't the difference.
Me: Yeah... I guess it's easier to blame SM than to try and understand Yunho and Changmin's decision like you do ChunJaeSu's. Or is that SM's fault too, your inability to understand Yunho and Changmin when they say they never wanted to leave? I don't know how the negotiation went, all I know is that 3 weren't satisfied, 2 were. That's already an answer for me, because I do believe all 5 have the right to do what they want based on their own wants, needs, desires and beliefs.
A: You know what? Whatever. You skull is too thick for me to share my opinions with you. I'm trying to keep things civil and then you go and say things like that. Go think what you think. I will do the same.
Me: Don't get all defensive because I was pointing out the obvious and asking a valid question. Yunho and Changmin had stated their stance, just like the three did. You were the one who blame SM for breaking the boys apart and splitting the fandom... yet it is YOU who can't understand HoMin's decision. Again, my skull is thick, doesn't make me wrong. Of course I will think what I think, because there's no way I will think what you think... That's yours to think about ^__^
A: LOL I can't. I just can't anymore.
Me: Of course you can't... That was obvious since several convos ago ^___^
M narrative: I may seem quite mean to this person, but it frustrates me to no end how she just can't admit to herself that she doesn't trust or support Yunho and Changmin's decision... She blames SM for the break up, yet she base this completely on JYJ's side argument. Is this the behavior or someone who supports all 5? No, it's a behavior of someone who is JYJ biased. She said so herself, she doesn't know why HoMin stayed, but she can understand JYJ's reasoning. She's biased toward JYJ... it's obvious, yet, she doesn't recognize it, even going as far as telling someone "You're happy cause its only them two? Are you even a fan?" Like I said, just because you SAY you support all 5, doesn't mean you do. I just wish she can be more honest to herself...
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Anonymous asked: Duet (original version) or Duet (winter version)? Why? Duet (winter version) or Winter rose? Why?
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Anonymous asked: OMG RUN DEVIL RUN?! ME TOO! That song caught my attention too! Btw, who do you think is the prettiest in RDR MV? For me, it's Jessica. SHE'S TOTALLY HOT, GORGEOUS, SEXY, BADASS, ETC! Her long blond hair with black highlight was ASDAFSAFFS. Her sexy & arrogant expression & her individual costume was too hot to handle for me! She totally gives me the badass-vampire vibe OMG. Her...
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Anonymous asked: Have you ever become an anti SNSD? On 2008, there were lots of Cassies (and ELFs & Triple Ss) that were antis of SNSD... So, if you came into the Kpop scene before 2008 or around 2008, what is your take about the Black Ocean? If you came after 2008, what do you think of SNSD when you first saw them & heard rumors about them?
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Anonymous asked: I used to respect Siwon a lot. I mean he's like Yunho ver 2.0 for me. They're similar, in a way. But after that SBSGD incident, somehow I can't see him in the same way anymore. Like you said, I didn't blame him because he felt like that, I mean, we can't control our feelings. But the way he ranted on twitter while his fans were worrying about them, thus making ELFs more...
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Why There Were Serious Spamming On TVXQ...
OT5 on Youtube: I dunno what the deal is with you, but I rarely comment in TVXQ videos & when I do comment, it's usually to tell my fellow ot5s to STFU. That time when we spammed was a result of anger & immaturity; first time I actually did that. & maybe you didn't see the rest of my comments - I wished Yunho & Changmin health & success. The ones spamming most were friends, yes, but I did tell them to stop when I thought it was getting out of hand.
Me: And they wonder why there are fights in TVXQ fandom and in TVXQ videos? Seriously? Maybe they should think about how they act and how it affects other people's feelings before blaming SM for splitting the fandom...
My Ego: Well, at least they admit their spamming was a result of anger and immaturity. And here I thought they are such perfect fans of TVXQ they don't suffer through such childish feelings...
Me: Meh, guess they're human after all...
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i am not delusional: SBSM →
smileyshinki:
suuzaaa:
guixien:
A friend of mine translated an MBLAQ fanaccount from Nate Pann. We have had many discussions on why some international fans supported SM, and she seemed pretty adamant on proving why Korean fans disliked the company. For your reference, I am a Super Junior stan and she is a SHINee…
There is just too much to say about all of this, so I’ll only comment on what...
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Anonymous asked: If Yunho / Changmin (or any idols) admitted that they're actually gay, will you keep supporting them? Or you love will decrease? Sorry bad english
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Anonymous asked: Can you tell me why did you fall in love with Sunny *_*? Why did she become you female bias? When did this happen? What qualities in her that you find admirable?
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Anonymous asked: bit*ly/tFKbts I DIDN'T GET HWAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PIC ;A;
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Anonymous asked: What do you think about Siwon in his recent tweet being the 'most hardworking group' and the 'most pitiful group'? Do you agree with this: twitlonger.*com/show/f0pf20 & twitlonger*com/show/f0paco
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aquamarineshoals asked: I think you're kick-ass and wish I had an older sister like you ^___^ (would it sound very stalker-ish if I admitted to reading each of your posts and having thus become a more rational thinker overall in life? ^___^) Hope 2012 will be a good year for you and for our TVXQ, hwaiting ^^
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Anonymous asked: i followed you because i like reading your POV regarding all the Drama between DBSK and its former members as well as STANS' drama!!you're very eloquent and assertive with your opinions and I admire you for that!! we have the same opinion on some issues and somehow it makes me happy that through you others can read what i want to say too [since i'm not good with words like you].
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To Some OT5, Let's Think About This For A...
Disclaimer: This is not directed to ALL OT5, but to some… So before you go and accuse me of stereotyping OT5, please open a dictionary and see the definition of “some”, kthxbai
Some of you like to argue that because Yunho and Changmin is under SM, the ebil company, that they are not saying what they truly think or that they are following script that SM want them to say. The...
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Before 2011 is over, I want someone to go to my... →
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shim-jung-love asked: Tag, you’re it! Here are the rules: Each tagged person must post ten things about themselves. You have to choose and tag ten people. Go to their blogs and tell them you tagged them.
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Anonymous asked: yeah, i understand you & i admire that you'd still support yunho & changmin if that ever did happen. thanks for answering my question anyways! :)
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Anonymous asked: I'm ot5, but I respect your views. They are your views and noone should judge you, or try to change them. I wanted to know what your views would be if yunho and changmin left sm not on bad terms, sorted things with jyj, and then continued to make music, with jyj. Would you still support yunho and changmin? Would you support all 5 of them? I'm not saying this will happen or that I think...
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Anonymous asked: Do you know why sometimes people start to dislike certain idols? They don't really hate the idols themselves, they just hate their 'fans'.
smileyshinki: What does SM have to do with this? →
smileyshinki:
It must be a lot of fun to hate SM, but can you step back for a moment and actually think?
How do you know Suju is blaming SM?
Suju is working for a company called SM. This company is not one single man (and surely not a man called Lee Soo Man) handling everything from management down to…
If SuJu members were addressing SM entertainment in any way, then they will resolve...
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Flag for Spam and Thumbs Down buttons are my best friends on Youtube…
– Because some idiots are just that stupid they actually drag down your IQ with every second you are exposed to their idiocy.
Anonymous asked: Can you tell me any site where KCassies hang around?
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Shocking Youtube Discovery
Another OT5: Cassieopeia: consists of 5 stars: Yunho Changmin Jaejoong Yoochun and Junsu. Cassieopeia consists of 5 stars, cassieopeia support all the 5. If you only support one or 2 you are not a cassieopeia. please leave or don't leave those kind of comments. I'm a cassieopeia and I believe that they will come back as 5 again. I will keep the faith forever. I think JYJ or TVXQ are upset of the fans that once they were supporting all the members and now they only support the two or the three
Me: Again, wrong facts. Cassiopeia consists of 53 stars, it has 5 stars and among 5 there are 2 brightest star. Besides, are you the creator of Cassiopeia that you have the authority to tell people how to act as a Cassiopeia? Let's face it, you didn't create it, you don't own it, so don't come here and preach your definition of Cassiopeia, because guess what? Official KOREAN CASSIES support current TVXQ, yes, both of them.
Another OT5: I support tvxq and jyj, I know that I didn't even knew tvxq when they had their debut.. I was 6 years old or 7 years old.. I regret knowing them after their debut and after they separate.. I was just telling that true fans should support the 5 and should keep the faith. I know that tvxq is now homin and jyj are jae, yoochun, jnsu. but well I'm just saying my opinion.
Me: And I am telling you that you are in no position to say what makes someone a "true fan". There's no obligation for anyone to support the 5 and keep the faith. Yunho and Changmin never ask fans to do anything but to show them love and support in their TVXQ activities. Unless you are the owner of Cassiopeia or TVXQ member themselves, you have no right telling others what they have to do to become one. So don't preach your Cassie, because it's not something accepted by everyone.
Another OT5: first: I was just telling it nicely. second: I'm sorry of the true fan comment.. and I repeat.. I was just saying my opinion. third:but.. still.. do u think they (homin) are happy to see their fans fighting? is it good if we fight? no.
My Ego: I don't know what's more disturbing, the fact she first told people what Cassiopeia (true fans) should do, twice and then claiming she was only 'stating her opinion', or the fact that she's younger than your youngest brother.
Me: Not all young fans are immature... but some of them do make me want to facepalm *facepalm*
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Another Idiotic Youtube Convo
Random 'OT5': tvxq started off with 5 people and will forever remain 5. Just because they are physically separated doesn't mean their souls will be either. Don't be so insensitive. TVXQ will always be 5 at least in my heart. You are in absolutely no position to tell others to "accept" it and move on.
Me: And you are in absolutely no position to tell others that they will "forever remain five". Fact is, TVXQ are Yunho and Changmin. How many men you see in the vid? So respect and appreciate them. Thank you ^___^
Random 'OT5': Just because I'm saying this anniversary should be celebrated with 5 members instead of two doesn't mean I don't respect or appreciate them. The other three members are in an awkward position to be celebrating this anniversary with them even if they all wanted to. That's my opinion please respect it. By the way, I didn't tell anyone that they will forever remain five. All I said was that they will always remain five to me. You're making a false accusation.
Me: O____________________________________________O
Note the inconsistency: "tvxq started off with 5 people and will forever remain 5" vs " By the way, I didn't tell anyone that they will forever remain five."
Me: Some people *facepalm*
My Ego: She just falsely accusing you of falsely accusing her...
Me: I know, Mind Fart!
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"Why Did They Stay?"
I wrote on youtube last night in response of another fan:
I don’t like basing my opinions on things I am not sure about. I am sure about 2 things, ChunJaeSu left and formed JYJ without HoMin, while HoMin stays as TVXQ even without the three. Since Yunho and Changmin are the ones that stays, then this is their anniversary as TVXQ, because they’re the ones who spent the past 8 years...